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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:32:00 -
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I don't know if the appology is meant or just a facade. I also don't care if it is.
Old american saying : Don't want to do time? Don't do the crime.
The fact 10,058 accounts voted for you is no reason to accept a mere appology without further consequences.
I don't mean RL consequences like some people stutter. That has nothing to do with EVE as a whole.
However you have damaged the credibility of EVE and the CSM as organisation by your actions and as such a penalty should be in place.
Seeing you have a large blockvote the removal from the CSM isn't really in the best intrest of CCP, nor should it be for the EVE players which voted for you.
But the chair might be not the best place for you and as such I would suggest to take another position within the CSM and leave the chair to someone who isn't as tainted as you are at the moment.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:07:00 -
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corestwo wrote:This is smoske all over again, except The Wis is smoske (not dead, obviously) and all you pubbies are BoB, looking for any excuse to get Mittens off the CSM.
Like I said before in this thread.
Actions have consequences. That is the sole thing EVE is based on.
I do see him in the CSM, just not as chair because if he would take chair now the seat would be tainted for much longer a period than him sitting in it.
10,058 votes went to him and even if we wanted to we can't ignore that.
However we also can't ignore what happened and a mere " I am sorry" just doesn't cut it always.
This is one of the situations where a tad more bending over and getting the butt spanked is in order.
We know how much he wanted the CSM chair and I for one can't think of a better punishment then him still serving his term in the CSM but, regardless of the amount of votes, not in the function as Chairman.
If he still makes a landslide victory in the VSM 8 election he could be eligeable again for the chair, but this season his light would shine too tainted to be of real value to the CSM. |
Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:51:00 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:
PS; as a genuine independent eve player I consider his apology and 10.7 bil isk reparations paid more than enough to make up for his mistake
And howmuch did Goonswarm take in from Moongoo per month again?
Makes 10.7 bill look like easy peanuts.
Resign chair and work under someone else as chair. That seems fitting enough for me and wouyld be more of a lesson as how to act in public then he displayed at the Fanfest.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:
Anybody who is afraid of expressing their views from their main characters is not worth listening to.
And anyone using his main and isn't agreeing with you and your kin is a sperg.
Yes yes we already know that rethoric.
It was original a few years ago but the internet is fast and unforgiving.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:41:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:Thread summary for those of you who came in late:
Mittani apologises;
130 pages of terrible posting.
You do realise that most of the posting has been done by Goonswarm here.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:43:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:Thread summary for those of you who came in late:
Mittani apologises;
130 pages of terrible posting. You do realise that most of the posting has been done by Goonswarm here. Yes. I am also a terrible poster. Mostly.
You are forgiven because we know good posting is against Goonswarm doctrine.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:46:00 -
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I never was and never will be a Goonswarm fan.
I am pretty sure any Goon who reads the forums aswel as people I hang around with in EVE can testify to that.
However EVE would lose the ultimate badguy if they were to ban Alexander.
It's not asif there are other Goons who are even remotely capable of filling those shoes. And whom would you want to rage your anger at after The Mittani has been removed from the game?
There is nobody else in the game who invokes either ultimate adoration or loathing.
Next to that there are 10,058 accounts which voted for him. This is quit a large chunk of those who actually bothered to vote.
You can't just ignore that while sharpening your pitchforks and setting your torches ablaze.
The withhunt a lot of people are creating is not much different to what he did at teh Fanfest and you should be ashamed of it.
Everyone knows the guy is down, yet the only thing the people who don't like him are doing is kicking a man on the floor.
Do you really believe your morale code is so much better if you look at this behaviour from a distance?
On the other side we have the nay sayers. The ones who keep making it worse by badposting and trolling over an incident which wouldn't have been an incident it it was a marginal thing.
He himself accepts he made a real big mistake there, yet you can't wait to get onto the barricades and act like thugs and show howmuch bravoure you have while in the meantime the one you are suppossedly defending is doing the one thing he should do.
Remain out of the debate and talk with the CSM and CCP as how this should be handled.
Yes EVE is a harsh world indeed. On one side we have the lingering villains who just can't step away from a wrong because that's not their rep.
on the other hand we have the farmers, armed with pitch and feathers, ready to drive a villain out of town without due process.
This game isn't a spacegame with goodies from the future. This is more the Old Wild West where we all shoot (of our mouths) before thinking things through.
There is a larger part of the community detached from reality than most are willing or able to see or admit.
So my suggestion to ALL parties would be to stop posting about this thing and try to act like adults for the very first time in your EVE lives and wait to see what the grownups are going to do. |
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:51:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:
Get over the cult of personality. EvE will go on with or without alex.
It's easy to tell others to step over their shadow while in the meantime refusing to step over your own.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:01:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:
We will worry about that when I do something as horrible as he did.
I don't know how it works in your morale code. But my morale code tells me to stop kicking a man who's already down.
This isn't dependant on who's on the floor but depends only on the one who decides to kick or not.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:04:00 -
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Voull wrote:I really don't get how anyone can defend him. He has brought a lot of negative attention to our community, and the only reason we don't all look like douchebags is because some have been very vocal in denouncing his actions.
He admitted he did wrong and said he was going to resign. What is there to argue here?
Actually. He made the mistake. But the ones who brought it out to all the gamingsites are the ones who decided to hang the dirty laundry out.
It's not asif Mittens told them to print that.
Isn't the reporting of something like that the responcebility anymore of those who report it or make it public anymore?
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:18:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Yeah, poor Mittani  I guarantee he's absolutely remorseless, and probably enjoying the attention. However this has to end. If he doesn't follow through on his claim to resign, this will only get worse.
I couldn't care less what happens with The Mittani. However people are so darn eager to forget that behind The Mittani is a player named Alexander.
Your bashing and constant calling for his hanging is also considered socalled cyber-bullying.
Are you a CCP representative? No you are not.
Are you someone elected by the community to represent the community? No you are not.
Are you one of the masses which cries "Burn the witch" ? This is more likely.
You say you guarantee that Alexander is completely remorseless and probably enjoying the attention. Please prove this. Else I need to petition you for deformation and slander.
You have ansolutely no idea how CCP and the CSM will respond to this so you just keep rekindling the fire of " If this and this doesn not happen I will that and that"
You are the worst kind of bystander when an accident happens. I have seen your kind more than once and will see your kind more than once.
instead of being a helping hand you can't get enough of the blood and gore on the ground and just need to press your nose forward while yelling. Just incase you might miss a spot of the crimescene and can't talk with your best buds about it. |
Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:19:00 -
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Lt Pizi wrote:
that will not work, and is a bad tactic
painting the messenger as the evil doer
As soon as the messenger is the one bringing oil to the flames he stops being a messenger and is a participant.
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